On Dialogue

“I think the difficulty is this fragmentation first of all. All thought is broken up into bits. Like this nation, this country, this industry, this profession and so on. They can’t meet. It’s extremely hard to break into that.

Now, that comes about primarily because thought has developed traditionally in a way such that it claims not to be affecting anything, but just telling you the way things are. Therefore people cannot see that they are creating a problem and then apparently trying to solve it.

See, let’s take the problem of pollution. Or the ecology. You see, the ecology is not, in itself, a problem. It works perfectly well by itself. It’s due to us, aye? It’s a problem because we are thinking in a certain way. By breaking everything up and each person’s doing his own thing.

Therefore, the ecology problem is due to thought, right? But thought thinks it’s a problem out there and I must solve it. Now, that doesn’t make sense, because simultaneously thought is doing all the activities which make the problem then does another set of activities to try to overcome it.

You see, it doesn’t stop doing the things that are making the ecological problem. Or the national problem. Or whatever the problem is.”

– David Bohm, quantum physicist, philosopher, and author of ON DIALOGUE